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Henk Dam's avatar

It worked for Abbott, until he actually became PM and his unrestrained and unchecked political stupidity (Knighthood anyone?) became too much even for his own party. My point is, this has been the Conservatives agenda since Howard and Tampa.

The only real way forward for Labour is to articulate it's core values and pursue them without apology. Failing that, watch the Greens and independents surge further ahead. Labour needs a Whitlam/Keating love child right now; vision, courage, charisma and stamina!

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MICHAEL'S CURIOUS WORLD's avatar

Dutton is offering nothing.

Albanese has a long list of real achievements.

The contrast is stark.

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Tim Robinson's avatar

The problem with pursuing its core values, such as a ‘two-state solution’ in Israel / Palestine is that it is completely out-of-touch with the ground level circumstances. The Palestinians themselves don’t support a two-state solution and neither do the Israelis. Yet Labour insist, despite opposition not only from Australians, but the primary stakeholders themselves in the Levant region. The only way to move forward is to dismantle the terrorist infrastructure, including the education system that supports it.

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Eddy Jokovich's avatar

The article didn’t even mention Israel/Palestine. Maybe a bot?

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Tim Robinson's avatar

Not a bot, I know it didn’t mention it. But it’s the most obviously flawed policy of the Labour Party. I didn’t delve into other policies mentioned in the article and I haven’t read the whole thing. Merry Christmas.

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Eddy Jokovich's avatar

The article is not even about Labor, it’s about Peter Dutton.

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Tim Robinson's avatar

Okay, you’re right. I was careless in my approach. Not as diligent as you. I’m sorry.

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MICHAEL'S CURIOUS WORLD's avatar

Most countries support a two-state solution as the only route to lasting peace.

Israel wants a one-state solution - Greater Israel - with Palestinians driven into neighbouring countries or exterminated. The world will never accept that.

Every time an Israeli kills a Palestinian, it causes more people to hate Israelis - it's a self-defeating strategy.

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MICHAEL'S CURIOUS WORLD's avatar

Dutton offers nothing worthwhile, but just seems a clone of Trump.

The media should be hammering Dutton's hollowness - he is the hollow man.

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Henk Dam's avatar

The conservatives/capitalists own what, 85% of the media being produced and watched by most people? The media won't save Albo from himself, though I agree he is street's ahead of Dutton. (And even the media knows that) But unless there is someone with enough conviction, passion and charisma the media have no choice but to follow I fear this period will end with a whimper. The only pathway at the moment is a coalition of greens, independents and labour. Not the worst outcome.

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MICHAEL'S CURIOUS WORLD's avatar

Under Gillard and Brown, the Labor-Greens government was highly successful and passed a record amount of legislation, so it can be done.

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Tim Robinson's avatar

Trump offers peace in the Middle East through his combative rhetoric which is a style of communication familiar to the region. Talk of peace is inevitably rejected by the indigenous population as it doesn’t resonate with their shared values. Threats such as, “hell to pay”, and “bullet in the forehead” make the difference in negotiations for an agreement leading to a ceasefire. Let’s see how it goes.

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MICHAEL'S CURIOUS WORLD's avatar

I predict Trump will be largely ignored. Israel already ignores Biden. Iran will outsmart Trump. Syrians just want to rebuild and evict foreign forces. Putin is too smart for Trump. Everyone knows Trump is just blowing hot air.

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Duncan Graham's avatar

All correct - but during the campaign Dutton and his values will only become apparent if he is interviewed by robust independent journos, and not just by the biased Murdoch press. But where do these courageous hacks reside, and how can they get their copy high in the mainstream media? The responsibility is great.

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New Politics's avatar

Mr Dutton has an open invitation to be interviewed on New Politics. He hasn’t taken it up. I doubt he will. DL.

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Tim Robinson's avatar

Erin Molan is now an independent journalist no longer on the payroll of the Murdoch Press. In order to pursue her passion for Israel, despite not being Jewish and never been to Israel, she resigned from Sky News to engage with the community in the Gaza envelope and the Israeli leadership. Independent journalists who lean towards the Greens and Labor will have to content with such hard-working and creative people.

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New Politics's avatar

I wondered what happened to her.

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Matt Gately's avatar

Errr, the media's crap, which is the reason Dutton is a viable opposition leader, but never fear, in the crucible of the election campaign the media will be made anew and Dutts revealed?

The media will respond to the times and actually do what it only ever claims to do?

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Tim Robinson's avatar

I was only able to absorb the first third of this article. The challenge is that the opponents to our shared values do not fit the suggested mold. The reality on the ground calls for a more nuanced perspective on the situation. While we live in relative peace, this is not the case globally, where violence has become normalized in certain regions. Overall, the article's abstract tone makes it difficult to engage with or challenge its arguments.

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New Politics's avatar

Thanks for your comments. DL

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Thanks for your comment. I think the reckoning is coming. DL.

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New Politics's avatar

I don’t either. We were burned (quite literally in some cases) by Morrison and I don’t think we’ll go back. And I suppose it will depend on Duttons ability to convince us otherwise. DL

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